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Now whether or not -- whether or not you believe that the criminal charges are right or wrong, the conduct is beneath the office of president of the united states. >> laura: then there were the representatives of the old bush-cheney view of republicanism. the two center dogs in the fight of course florida governor ron desantis, entrepreneur vivek ramaswamy. they both did their best though to appeal to the party's populist core. to score points vivek swatted at the old guard republicans on stage with him. >> we're in the middle of a national identity crisis. people are so hungry for purpose and...

Now whether or not -- whether or not you believe that the criminal charges are right or wrong, the conduct is beneath the office of president of the united states. >> laura: then there were the representatives of the old bush-cheney view of republicanism. the two center dogs in the fight of course florida governor ron desantis, entrepreneur vivek ramaswamy. they both did their best though to appeal to the party's populist core. to score points vivek swatted at the old guard republicans on stage with him. >> we're in the middle of a national identity crisis. people are so hungry for purpose and...