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I will say that donald trump probably read everything on his website or maybe has not read everything on his website. >> listen. >> his position shifted. somewhat, or seems to have on this topic or softening some of what seemed like the beginning that the campaign started in july. he's widened the door a bit. >> this is why people say he has no soul on some of the issues that he says what he needs to say in the moment. >> so if you look at what he is putting these position papers out on, on actions, and immigration, and gun control. what he did when he did that, he kind of took care of the det...

Through his career before he went into politics was very laced with religion and his personal faith. there's also the matter that, you know, in that interview where he talked about his history, his personal history of violence and his youth, the obvious subtext there is that donald trump is this wild crazy unhinged person that i used to be when i was 14 and have since overcome, and that's why i'm low energy. right? i'm actually more aligned with you. >> here's one of the most -- i mean, from a policy perspective, he makes donald trump look like wonky quarterly journal. >> oh, yeah. >> donald t...

With and ability to speak to a certain portion of the republican base. >> yeah, absolutely. he is a religious -- his pep talk that he's been giving all through his career before he went into politics was very laced with religion and his personal faith. there's also the matter that, you know, in that interview where he talked about his history, his personal history of violence and his youth, the obvious subtext there is that donald trump is this wild crazy unhinged person that i used to be when i was 14 and have since overcome, and that's why i'm low energy. right? i'm actually more aligned wit...

Through his career before he went into politics was very laced with religion and his personal faith. there's also the matter that, you know, in that interview where he talked about his history, his personal history of violence and his youth, the obvious subtext there is that donald trump is this wild crazy unhinged person that i used to be when i was 14 and have since overcome, and that's why i'm low energy. right? i'm actually more aligned with you. >> here's one of the most -- i mean, from a policy perspective he makes donald trump look like wonky quarterly journal. >> oh, yeah. >> donald tr...

>> if paul ryan is going to be successful, he's not going to be successful by writing position papers. he's going to be successful by having members stream in and out of their office and having them tell him what they need and what he and the caucus needs. no, it's not a part time job and comes down to personal relationships at the end of the day. willie, i can't exactly say what i said to newt gingrich at one point but at one point when we had had our 100th fight, i said newt, you've just got to start communicating with us. i can either be inside the tent, we'll just say spitting out or i can...