Next. we learned that -- and this stood out to me, and even the ag pointed this out as egregious. one of the details is when arrestees would claim that they couldn't breathe, the officers would respond with, you can breathe, you're talking now. i have heard that, chief, as a defense to some of the maneuvers from law enforcement over years. there have been law enforcement analysts on this network who have said, well, if they're talking, they can breathe. how does that resonate across the profession to hear the ag call that out? >> yeah, first of all, i'm not one of those analysts that said that...