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Here's what we're pointing out to you. van, finish your point, please. >> listen, language matters. positioning matters. i remember when bill clinton had to go and get somebody from north korea, or maybe it was al gore had to get somebody, i can't who it was -- >> bill clinton went to deal wihe two journalis>> right, bilr there, and he made sure he had the most dour countenance the entire time. he didn't even want a photograph of him smiling next to the president. he was sending clear signals. this is a horrible person, i am dog it for political expedience. he didn't say you're honorable, you'...

>> no, he hasn't. he just began. >> can you imagine what would happen if president obama had gone to a dictator like this, a brutal, brutal genocidal thug like this and said, i'm honored to meet you? he did a head nod to an arabian -- >> i wish president o did because we wouldn't be dealing with it w. >> he shook raul castro's hand, dave, and you made it sound like he took him to the prom. >> i did this? >> you own the whole group when you're on this show, guys. you have to take the whole right and van has to take the whole left. he'll have his time, don't worry. >> i'm on cnn, not fox. >> and...