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This means. joining us now, palm beach county florida state attorney dave aaronburg, dick gregory and former u.s. attorney barbara mcquaid. so, the counts that have everyone talking about is the ones that fall under the espionage, which forbids retaining any document, i quote from it, any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the united states or to take advantage of any foreign nation. so, are these the counts that the former president should be most concerned about? well, the obstruction is punishable by up to 20 years in prison. espionage is ten years in prison. he should be worried about the espionage. he violated two parts of the ....
Information. is itself a crime. number two, the fact that it is a government record is itself a separate crime that one could be charged with. so there is a lot going on here. and if the document is real, this is potentially quite bad evidence for the former president. you and others have pointed to the espionage act and i ll read how it describes this kind of document. section 793 of the espionage act. relating to the national defense or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the united states or to the advantage of any foreign nation. do you think there is actual legal exposure here? assuming the document is what has been reported, absolutely. kate, i d note that there is a very important word you did not use there when reading from that statute and it is the world class filed. it does not matter whether the former president classified or declassified the document. ....
Have two gun trafficking cases and several straw purchasing cases as a consequence of this law. in addition, the law provided for enhanced background checks for people under 21 and we have largely completed the process of making those possible so that juvenile records that disclose prohibited conduct and make somebody a prohibited possessor would be identified. the statute also provided funds under the burn program, and additional programs for violence intervention and for helping states deal with red flag laws so people who have been subject to a court order barring them from obtaining a gun we would be able to get those systems provided and we ve already given out grants in both of those ....
Said, established a stand alone crime for straw purchasing and a stand-alone crime for trafficking in illegal weapons. we have already are these being prosecuted? yes, in both cases we have already brought trafficking cases, i think we already have two gun trafficking cases and several straw purchasing cases as a consequence of this law. in addition go ahead. in addition, the law provided for enhanced background checks for people under 21, and we have largely completed the process of making those possible so that juvenile records that disclose prohibited conduct and make somebody a prohibited possessor would now be identified. that s another thing we ve done. the statute also provided funds under the burn program and additional programs for violence intervention and for helping ....
First of all, it has, as you said, established a stand alone crime for purchasing and a stand alone crime for trafficking in illegal weapons. are these being prosecuted? yes. in both cases we have already brought trafficking cases. i think we already have two gun trafficking cases and several straw purchasing cases as a consequence of this law. in addition in addition, the law provided for enhanced background checks for people under 21, and we have largely completed the process of making those possible so that juvenile records that disclose prohibited conduct and make somebody a prohibited possessor would now be identified and that s another thing we ve done. that a statute also provided funds under the burden program and additional programs for ....