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Years at that agency and not be involved at some point in something that someone thinks is controversial. so when it comes to gina, i want people to remember she was doing what her agency asked her to do, what the president asked her to do. she carried it out at a time when this was widely seen as essential to the nation's security. >> post-9/11. >> post-9/11. leave aside the controversy since then. but i think that's what's on the table here. >> what about mike pompeo? >> what about him? >> the fact he came from the world of politics but was successful at the agency because they knew he had t...

Like it's time to prepare for the worst. >> thank you. >> thank you. jeremy bash, jump in and speak about your time working for jane harman in the years when the intel community and the house and the thsenate were dealing w what we thought were imminent threats to the homeland. post-9/11 there were state secre secrets held by democrats and republicans in confidence of a republican white house. there were programs they were read into. not only did dmnone of those programs leak, the communities were the only places where were even discussed or debated or even known. how far gone is that era? >> ...

Seriously. and almost as though george w. bush after 9/11 said we don't know who did this, it could have been a lot of people, and didn't really take the lead on action to reinforce cockpit doors or increase airport security. you just kind of can't believe that it's happening. i think that's why you see that sort of a reaction. >> peter baker, michael crowley mikes a point that many on the right have been making, max boot i think has a piece in the "washington post" making this point. watching donald trump react to what general hayden, another one of the intelligence community officials who's ...

We have covered the white house intelligence committee for a long time, since 9/11, ever since the post-9/11 changes and the reporting in a unified way, it is always terrorism that has been the top threat. this year it's cyber and russia and russia's continuing threats. dan coates said as we played at the top of the show that the united states is under attack. under attack from russia and others trying to undermine our democracy and that there's still focus on the 2018 election. and as we also heard today, nothing has been done. there's been no briefing requested by the president about this th...

Rise. i mean, he's been talking about -- i don't know if he uses the phrase "deep state" quite as often as his supporters in the conservative media do, but basically his theory is that there is this bureaucratic establishment that's out to get him that's subverting the will of the american people, that's anti-democratic. this is the entire narrative of his rise to power. the role reversal, by the way, really is so stunning. nicolle, you probably remember at the peak of what we refer to as the war on terror in the 2010s when "the new york times" reported on the fisa surveillance program and the...