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Society destroyed the eat infrastructure. same thing will happen in syria. has if we have a vision we as promoters and advocates for liberty have to be the ones to d give the majorities that room. this very different than iraq. in syria you have an uprising of the majority 5 to 10 million ad. syrians are part of the movement to get rid of assad. this is not just about 10,000 al qaeda. >> eric, if we go in and do something that stirs it up, do we not invite the iranians then to go ahead and launch something against israel to stir up the entire region, get everybody in a way that i don't know wh...

Attention to it and obama doesn't want to talk about it. that's what happens when you pretend like a goofy bumper sticker like "lead from behind" is a serious strategy. of course qatar and saudi arabia will channel arms toye to jihadt groups. we pretend saudi arabia and qatar are our allies. but we want a different post-assad syria. we weren't a secular democracy where women have rights. the saudis and qatar want a post-assad syria that looks like saudi arabia.

>> eric: what about iran? iran loses syria, they don't want to lose syria. >> and this is a central issue, the minority alawite government in syria is backed by iran which is also backing hezbollah in lebanon and this is really a larger question and it needs to move beyond, we need to move beyond the idea this is a sunni-shia struggle and show the syrians that a government that would be created most assad would be inclusive and have the right kind of -- kinds of protections for minorities in syria. >> eric: that assumes there could be a post government -- a post-assad and kofi annan is there, ...

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