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Be phased out over two years so i think across the board if you look at the traditional american in this country, particularly those who parititicipated in medicaid, many of them are going to get hurt by this. >> i was trying to ask a democratic senator about this because i know it's a big issue on the left. the medicaid stays intact until 2021, so that's some years from now and then it's phased out over the course of three years so people won't be impacted until post-midterm, post-next presidential election so there's that and the bit about preexisting condition remains. >> there's the headli...

Election and election cycle, but ultimately, the question is, if you completely shut this down by '23 or '24, there's 70 million americans that rely on the services that medicaid provides. >> right. >> you know, medicaid and medicare are some of the most popular programs. they're programs that work. they're pro they're programs that voters say they want. we should be looking for ways to get more people insured. i think that making medicare simply go up year by year to insure more people is the way forward. it's simple. it's easy. it's something that we already know works. >> this matters. it a...

Take this and what will your response be that you and your administration has been talking about all week. he has been, as you and jake and jim and others have been talking about, a lame duck on the loose lately, sort of the bear on the loose that we heard about over the summer. i asked the president at that midterm -- post midterm news conference, are you a lame duck? he said, technically i am but he's been trying to rewrite that playbook by going out on his own on these various deals that you saw cut with china, for example, on climate. last month, cuba on normalizing relations with the comm...