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Apparatus around him so if he wants to make a sustained bid for public attention, he has potential reach that sarah palin never had. >> frank bruni, thanks so much. okay. who was about to say something? it's michael. go ahead. >> i was just going to say to frank's last point there, i'm not wholly convinced that donald trump has an interest in the political as much as he does the media. the idea that donald trump is going so how be a movement leader for the gop post-this election, i don't see these tracks being laid right now. >> election is not over yet by the way. still ahead, donald trump sa...

I'm the candidate and vehicle to do that with a bunch of policies that went behind that whether it was trade or foreign entanglements. there was always a countermessage that stepped on the substantive message. whether it was 100-day speech in which he started talking about suing women or at the third debate, which he had a pretty good debate, but it got washed over by the notion of i'm not going to accept the election. >> always stepping on his own headline. >> coming out of both conventions when you needed to be strong with policy differences and disruptor versus establishment came the khans....

>> another great moment was -- not great but shocking in the last debate was that donald trump saying that he didn't know whether he would abide by the results of the election. i mean, there's a word for that. it's called sore loser. sore loser. >> to say you won't respect the results of the election, that is a direct threat to our democracy. the peaceful transfer of power is one of the things that makes america america. it is not a joke. look, some people are sore losers. we just got to keep going. >> joining us now, contributor to "time" magazine and msnbc political analyst, thanks for joini...

Is how do you reach back to this coalition or is it completely gone? are we looking at a modern democratic party made up of different demographic groups? you start with policy. the onus is on her after the election. how much, if at all, does she pivot back toward the middle, which we all assume is where her instincts lie to be a moderate on policy. i have a feeling that we overstate her tendencies to be a moderate on domestic stuff. she has a good liberal streak on domestic policy. this will happen in lame duck. things like this are going to determine the future of the democratic party. >> loo...

Consolidate and now things have changed dramatically. the question i have for ben and everyone around the table, if he loses narrowly to michael's point, i could easily see trump making the case to mcconnell and to ryan who he now is more popular in the party that had you guys embraced me, i would have won. i useded to work for mr. ginsburg many years ago as a young lawyer. it would seem to me he could call for resignation of those leaders saying had you guys been with me this might have been a different outcome in this race and my republican party is the future. is that a concern of republica...