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Money in their pocket and they will see it that early and he went on to say, you'll still be able -- most americans -- will be able to follow their taxes on the size of a postcard. >> and that is the postcard test that i referred to earlier. a lot of people, if you don't do a lot of deductions, you will be able to follow this postcard. it will be a little bigger than people thought. seven brackets versus the four, which was in the original house legislation, they went up to seven in the final version. they will still be a lot of people who itemize. there is some argument to be made that not ev...

Have seen no effect like that. in fact, he went on to mention at&t, how they had an 8% tax break, and went on to actually let go of 80,000 employees. so to that end, the republicans have a hard sell, do they not? >> absolutely. one of the most basic cells, what some folks call the postcard test, they say they will give it the five year taxes on a postcard, maybe, maybe not. >> finally, getting back to something else. you mentioned that this was like creating a wine more than sausage. explain to me what you mean by the senate and the house g.o.p. creating a wine, as you know, one has to be aged...