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Dominance, postmodern secularism. all these different factors. where's it going? i don't know. but i do know that there is a restlessness among decent people of what to do next. where is my place in this world? do i have to always be a slave to these devices? so yeah, there's probably going to be a little bit of a people because of it. >> tucker: charlie kirk turns out to be a pretty deep guy actually. that conversation went on for nearly an hour. he explained why guilt is the single driving force in modern american politics and that's not helpful for anyone. he says what the conservative move...

With no commitment to permanence. >> tucker: where do you think this is going? >> i try not to be solely in the predictive business. i can tell you i think it's going. here's the question, and i don't think anyone has really set it like this. 2016, was it a tremor, an earthquake, or an aftershock? was it something before something? when donald trump got elected i mean. was it an earthquake or was it an aftershock? i think it's a tremor. i think what we are living merough is a 10-year tremor of bigots about to happen. a tremor meaning something that happens before an earthquake. the geological ...