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Hacking, doing the kind of actions that the russians were involved in this the last election. but more importantly, you can use cyber to destroy. you can develop a sophisticated virus that can cripple our electric grid system or transportation. you could virtually use cyber to create the kind of paralysis that could frult a pearl harbor type attack. that's what russia is looking at, that's what china is looking at, what iran is looking at. it's the effort to try to see if you can deploy these kinds of viruses into systems that could paralyze the united states of america. >> so what should the ...

Very cautious letting the north koreans say keep the americans at arm's length but we will talk to you and exactly what the north koreans want and i'm not sure. i don't want the south koreans will fall for it. >> do you think the south koreans will agree to this meeting that this invitation that kim yo-jong has offered? >> boy. there is two broad pieces we have to understand here. i don't think they are going to agree to it right off the start. there have to be reconditions and something the north koreans give. as you just said they got a ticket to the olympics without payinging anything. the ...

California, oregon, washington, all of these places that would be within range of any kind of potential attack or possible attack as we have heard from the threatening regime of north korea? there is nothing you can do. i know that is a message people do not want to hear but it is been true since the beginning of the nuclear age. >> let me interrupt you one moment. >> there is so traffic people do not appreciate. look at the pictures from hiroshima. this is not just, it is a different magnitude. >> i understand what you're saying about a nuclear attack. my point is, my question is, what should...

In very difficult situations. her answer, basically, on "meet the press" this morning was it's up to the ethics committee. that's what she said repeatedly. jeff? >> that's right. to leeann's point i think nancy pelosi signaled in a way that this was coming saying conyers knows what the stakes are and in the end he'll do the right thing. she was alluding to that john conyers as you both well know is the longest serving active member in the house. he served 27 terms. he was in his 23rd year as the top democrat on the house judiciary committee. but in stepping aside from that post, richard, i thi...

Take place without knowing that this person might act and there's programs in every state so somebody who knows about this potential attack notifies authorities. i know colorado has a thing called safe to tell where students can report potential shootings. if people have a leakage outlet, that would be very, very helpful. unfortunately, when we look at something like facebook, the rantings of people are just abhorrent. it would be difficult to pinpoint the exact shooter. certainly looking in the rearview mirror is easier than looking down the road. >> i agree with you. thank you for putting ou...