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Years and nothing beyond ten years if they want to pass it with 50 years in the senate, they sunset at individual rates. another moment of honesty in politics, mick mulvaney said, this is a gimmick, we make it fit into our parameters. their argument beyond that is a future congress is not going to raise taxes on middle class so they extend these things. who knows, maybe they will, maybe they won't and we could wind up in 2024 with a huge fiscal cliff and looming tax increases. they do sunset them, they tell everybody, don't worry, this will all be extended. there's no guarantees in politics. >...

Reconciliations and creating this potential cliff down the line. any sensible person could say oh, this is a good idea. why won't you only make it temporary? the business tax cuts are not testimo temporary. the whole reason they are temporary is because they cannot pound the money it would cost in the next couple of years to get it done under senate rule. everybody knows you are not going to let those tax cuts expire in 2025. if you do, that's a defactor cost increase. so cynically, they'll say well, congress will have to approve that, we are not going to count the money that costs because tha...

>> paul: unpopular. >> unpopular, excuse me. also they've decided this is a once in a lifetime political opportunity, they've gotta get it done. the chance isn't going to come along for a generation. so you have the whole party machinery full speed ahead, ramming speed. >> paul: the big game is the house, right that's where they are gonna go first. trying to get the senate bill to pass december 24th, christmas eve and pass that through the house. the house has now had real problems, nancy pelosi, they had three ways and means chairman this week bus of charlie rangel's leave of absence. what --...

>> you mean unpopular. >> unpopular, excuse me, but also they've decided that this is the only -- this is a once in a lifetime political opportunity, they've got to get it done. this chance isn't going to come along for a generation until you just have the whole party machinery full speed ahead ramming speed. >> and john, the big gain here is the house, right? because that's where they're going to go first. they're going to try to get the senate bill passed december 24th, christmas eve, and pass that through the house, but the house is now had some real problems and nancy pelosi, the three way...

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