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So what i think is important now is that the mueller investigative team finishes their investigation, reports that to the department of justice, and we put an end to this investigation which clearly has demonstrated has nothing to do with the presidential campaign of 2016. sandra: you got to think about how that looks, though, the conviction of paul manafort, the guilty plea from michael cohen, immunities granted to two others, close to all of this, and you've got to wonder, corey, and you've got -- the optics of it, does it spell trouble for the president as this information continues? >> -- ...

The president is saying in the conference. and fact that we're looking at papadopoulos being -- looking at jail. i mean the government is talking about he needs to go to jail for six month >> he'll be the second person that's going to be put in jail as a result of this investigation because as you know, there's already a lawyer, alexander van der zwaan already in prison. >> and former campaign manager. >> facing potential jail, we don't know. monday or tuesday. so i think the investigation and a president whose back is against the wall. you hear him say no collusion, no collusion, no collusion...

Potential collusion with russia. and if that's just a lot wasted air on the people who are in the middle who you don't have committed to either camp, that's a lot of wasted air that people are campaigning on or devoting time to in a campaign season when, like you were saying before, there may be more ground to gain in focussing on actual specific issues. >> but i will make the reminder that i often make at this table which is that we are only hearing 50% of the story on that investigation. when i look at those numbers for independents i wonder what happens when you hear something from mueller....

Of a potential collusion equals conspiracy or obstruction of justice is a separate matter. >> friends, stand by for a moment if you will. we are following breaking news this morning. firefighters in california racing to contain what is now the largest wild fire in that state's history. the flames have scorched 284,000 acres and destroyed more than 100 homes and structures. our darren simon live in lake port, california, with the breaking details. what you seeing? >> well, john, this pretty much tells you everything you need to know about this year's wild fire scene. this is a monster wild fire...

Maybe apart of this, but are they telegraphing anything, the names you just ticked off, kushner, roger stone, donald trump jr., they are all at that intersection of potential collusion, potential conspiracy around that trump tower meeting that the president tweeted about on sunday. >> that's exactly right, nicolle. first of all, i wanted to make a point about the stuff that the government did today with mr. gates on the stand. they have a constitutional obligation to turn over to the defendant and to his lawyers every bad thing that mr. gates had done. and so, what the government always does w...