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By the way, i think corsi probably, mueller probably bounced him rather than vice versa. in any event, he's no longer a potential cooperator. >> interesting you should say that. listen, another question for you, manafort's lawyers were apparently telling the trump team everything that was going on with the investigation. you wrote a great piece in the "washington post" titled. the manafort witness deal implosion is a very big deal." mueller is full little entitled to subpoena manafort council kevin downing and whichever trump council spoke with him. one trusts it wasn't emmet flood who is too ...

Cooperate and he'll have to tell everything he knows. he still have to do jail time less but some, verses if he's pardoned, he we don't waon't ph walk out of that prison right now. the related question is what is the president doing? >> is there a chance that let's just say there is something to know, is there a chance that paul manafort does not know it? is there a chance that a lot of folks for months now have gotten this thing all wrong that maybe manafort y manafort, yes, guilty of all financial crimes may not have been emersed enough in the president's inner circle to become familiar with...

From him. i think sometimes he's just trying to get through the day and he's not necessarily thinking about a long-term strategy. it's sort of putting out every fire as they come up. but i will say this is coming to a different point in michael cohen's life since his hotel room and office and home were searched by fbi agents. we're coming to a point where document collection and going through the documents is over. he is switching over to a new attorney and he still has not from my reporting been talked to by the government or approached by the government. we're beginning a new phase here. and...

But i will say this is coming to a different point in michael cohen's life since his hotel room and office and home were searched by fbi agents. we're coming to a point where document collection and going through the documents is over. he is switching over to a new attorney and he still has not from my reporting been talked to by the government or approached by the government. we're beginning a new phase here. and it's unclear how that new phase is going to work out. >> you're talking about how the pressure's on michael cohen all year are affecting him. which does go to his mindset as a potent...

Robert mueller may have flipped his third cooperating witness. cnn reporting mueller's team is in the process of putting together a plea deal for rick gates. sources familiar with the case tell cnn gates has already had criminal lawyers call a queen for a day interview in which a defendant answers any questions from the prosecutor's team including about his own case and other potential criminal activity he witnessed. for more what it could mean for the investigation, i'm joined by joyce vance, former u.s. attorney for the northern district of alabama. start on the idea of queen for a day. what...