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Offduty firefighter. i read that he had a concealed carry permit. is that correct? that's one of the ways he was able to stop this guy. >> that's correct. so first for starters, missouri is an open carry state. now, excuse me. what makes the difference there on that front is when it is being wielded in the presence and potentially a dangerous man or in front of people. that would certainly apply the this. you walk into the middle of a crowded walmart in this case. and also the type of weapon makes a difference. a handgun or what we can see here as a long gun as well. for the firefighter, as we...

Able to stop this guy. >> that's correct. so first for starters, missouri is an open carry state. now, excuse me. what makes the difference there on that front is when it is being wielded in the presence and potentially a dangerous man or in front of people. that would certainly apply the this. you walk into the middle of a crowded walmart in this case. and also the type of weapon makes a difference. a handgun or what we can see here as a long gun as well. for the firefighter, as we understand, he did hold this gunman up, this potential gunman at gunpoint as he exited that emergency exit until...