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Lightly discussed a deal. you are starting to see inconsistencies as it relates to the moscow project, not only by michael cohen. he pled guilty to that. but the president making the statement he did on twitter today. >> a conversation light. a deal with less calories. i'm assuming. joyce, the president is employing the classic punch back strategy calling the accuser i guess you would say a liar, insisting that trump himself was not hiding anything and then the third leg, even if i was hiding something, it's legal so i'm allowed to do it. so, the president is very comfortable doing things that...

Defend defend, it must be wrong. the balance became so overwhelming. when you get into an issue that involved potential illegality, that was a problem. >> people within the epa and whistle-blower, what's the reaction inside this agency? >> they're happy to see pruitt go because of the way he was running this office. very much not agreeable to meet any scientists and read backup and follow procedures in place from other epa administrators making big decisions. they are happy at least pruitt is gone. they're not quite sure about andrew wheeler, although andrew wheeler is many things, a d.c. prof...

Personal lawyer and the payments from a u.s. company linked to a russian oligarch or russian billionaire. what are the areas from your per spect -- perspective of potential illegality. >> the areas are possibly bank fraud in false statements that michael cohen made to the banks that were dealing with him and second violations of the foreign lobbying act and registration requirements which may not appear huge in themselves but in combination with other possible violations like money laundering could make him much more vulnerable. all of these payments are deep serious trouble for michael cohen ...

For some time about the need for mueller's investigation to be allowed to poe seed without interference from the president. he's been quite critical of president trump's tweets and efforts to influence the investigation, call it a hoax and all that. he sees parallels between that and the attacks on him when he was the whitewater independent counsel from the clinton camp. but the stormy daniels controversy was kind of a new issue for him and there's a certain consistency there when he saw what he perceived as potential criminal conduct by bill clinton and lying under oath in the paula jones cas...

He came out today, apologized. he spent two hours talking and taking questions from all kinds of reporters. he looked patient. he's going to investigate this. do democrats run the risk of overreaching on this and looking a little desperate in the process? >> well, look, let's put this in perspective. this has not been a plus for him. >> no. >> even though he might have had a decent day today. this is a tarnish on his image. and my confession to you is that of all the republicans out there, the one i fear the most in 2016 is christie. so i'm going to put that on the table. but this has been dam...