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The partial transcript, is acknowledged, that those facts have now been supported in great detail by many of these witnesses, that that is not an impeachable offense, that it's not illegal, and impeachment doesn't have to be illegal, it's not a criminal test, it's a political test, but that it is not an impeachable offense? >> number one, i think it is illegal. i think it constitutes a bribe. if you just said, mr. president of ukraine, i need a favor, well, if that favor was to start conducting their business in a more ethical fashion, that would be legitimate. it's completely illegal to seek ...

And you other republicans that the president is not only being questioned about this by his inspector general, but that now he's come out and asked china and others, foreign governments to investigate and in effect, interfere with the electoral policies of this country by investigating his opponent? >> well, reverend, first of all, biden doesn't have a chance in this primary. >> so what does that have to do with interfering with the politics? >> it's not the president's opponent, so he's not asking them to investigate. >> his potential opponent. >> most of his requests have been about the 2016...

And i think -- and biden drives him nuts and he knows that he's sort of a tough potential opponent. and i think that there's something about the president where we know he's not able to rise to the moment. but there's nobody who can help him rise to the moment either. i mean, other presidents, they have people around them who can, you know, sort of help them to guide them to navigate. he doesn't take any of that. >> and this would be where you would need a strong chief of staff. whatever your politics are in the issue of immigration, yesterday was not a good day to do an i.c.e. raid. we can de...

Bush a warmonger. that from 2000 2001 2002, they were all talking about saddam's weapons of mass destruction. so i think there is a real ambiguity here. and i think maybe jeb didn't hear megan's question correctly. i'm certainly not apologizing for this guy. if he does claire guyrify and say he'd go into iraq know knowing what he knows in 2015 instead of all we were allowed to thoughknow in 2003 then that's a problem. but he went back and -- >> there a political angel here. he was focused on saying i between -- i would have done what everyone else did including my potential opponent. he was so...

Comfortable and why? >> well i think we have to acknowledge what the islamic state wants us to acknowledge. they are very clear that their goal is to return the world to a middle-age state. they are very clear that a radical interpretation of islam is at the heart of their political philosophy. they are very clear that they are perhaps misinterpreting portions of islam but from their point of view they have the right interpretation of islam and they are willing to slaughter muslims, christians and jews as well as to destroy priceless works of art and antiquity in order to return to world to th...