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Other information obtained as part of a cyber attack? was there any discussion that you were involved in within the campaign or anyone else about potential use of the information that had been obtained through the cyber attacks? don jr.'s answer was always -- i don't know, or i don't recall. eli, what do you make of that? >> well, as donald trump himself has said, you don't plead the fifth if you actually are innocent. when you don't go in front of people and say, you can't recall all these things over and over again, if you're actually telling the truth, you do not go and scramble and call ot...

Be hurt by these kinds of big swabs of national monuments. >> shannon: explain how that works because i'd really understand it until i heard from some of these people about what it meant to them, their tax base from their livelihood when this land is taken out of potential use. >> many people east of utah don't really understand what public lands mean. two-thirds of the land in utah is controlled by the federal government. you can't tax it, can't develop it. that's a real problem especially gives rural counties commits hard for them to fund education. there's a lot of uncertainty with these bi...

Swabs of national monuments. >> shannon: explain how that works because i'd really understand it until i heard from some of these people about what it meant to them, their tax base from their livelihood when this land is taken out of potential use. >> many people east of utah don't really understand what public lands mean. two-thirds of the land in utah is controlled by the federal government. you can't tax it, can't develop it. that's a real problem especially gives rural counties commits hard for them to fund education. there's a lot of uncertainty with these big lands. grazing goes down. ra...

Contingencies that are impossible to foresee. >> why ask for this now? null. >> well, perhaps he's not talking only about expanding beyond the area but expanding activity in the area where we already are. so, maybe he's asking for understanding in laying the groundwork for potential use of u.s. forces even though he says right there, we're not going to. again, leaving open the possibility. you have to -- >> just in case. >> we want to, but we're not going to. >> i mean, the part i don't understand is don't they already have essentially unlimited flexibility? they're doing everything they want ...

Flight. >> even though it was stolen you abouters would not have gone off. >> no. there's no check being done. airlines don't have access to check it. back when i was on the executive committee of interpol several years ago we tried to, you know, encourage countries please use this system on outbound flights, many more countries including the u.s. use it you know both ways or when passengers arrive and go through passport control, when you scan the passport it checks the country's databases if you're wanted or on one of the watch lists, or it checks the databases at the same time in leon, fran...