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Transportation trust fund, which has all the money to pay for roads, was empty and the only way to fix roads would have been to raise the gas tax which is something that christie did not want to do going into a potential republican election. >> thinking about, just thinking about the sort of short-term political incentives there, obviously not repairing the roads is politically disastrous. people call their local elected officials. they start getting mad. not being able to fix them without raising tax is a big problem, when the trust fund is empty because of his promise not to raise taxes. at ...

Empty because of his promise not to raise taxes. at the port authority, looking around for money to dump into that trust fund so you could avoid the potholes calls, would the tunnel money have been the biggest pot of money sitting there is. >> it was absolutely. it was $3 billion that once it was taken out of the tunnel could be redirected to this and in fact, that is what happened. this is not something that the port authority has done. and this is something the same committee that is now looking into bridge-gate had started to investigate. where did that money go, how were the decisions made...