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Believe that is incredibly important and who are pouring a ton of resources into that. and that is an absolutely worthy cause. you know, as an educator, i would say because we are with children for a significant portion of their days and of their years that we should also be doing everything within our power to make sure that the schooling environment that they're in, you know, gives them the skills that they need to be successful in life. so you know, i think that you know, to say that well, you've got lots of people pouring a lot of money into this, does that mean that they're ignoring other...

Makes a huge difference in their ability to learn. right? so you have got advocates who believe that is incredibly important and who are pouring a ton of resources into that. and that is an absolutely worthy cause. you know, as an educator, i would say because we are with children for a significant portion of their days and of their years that we should also be doing everything within our power to make sure that the schooling environment that they're in, you know, gives them the skills that they need to be successful in life. so you know, i think that you know, to say that well, you've got lot...

Kids come to school hungry that makes a huge difference in their ability to learn. right? so you have got advocates who believe that is incredibly important and who are pouring a ton of resources into that. and that is an absolutely worthy cause. you know, as an educator, i would say because we are with children for a significant portion of their days and of their years that we should also be doing everything within our power to make sure that the schooling environment that they're in, you know, gives them the skills that they need to be successful in life. so you know, i think that you know, ...

Classroom is so dysfunctional. >> this is the chicken and egg question. on one hand, we expect education to solve poverty. on the other hand, it is poverty that inhibits the ability for a lot of our kids to be educated. i ask the question, is part of this intentional? the national conversation, the corporate conversation is poverty doesn't matter and a good teacher in front of every kid is what matters. i say, this is a convenient way of doing nothing at all. we have to do both but we are not doing both. why isn't the conversation about doing both and why aren't the policies and reforms target...

Violent way. >> would they feel that way. >> i can't speak for all of black america and all of brown america or white america. >> bill: in your research. >> my research suggest to me that there has always been a link between poverty and crime. that's why dr. west and i have written this book because our very democracy is trend by poverty. we argue in this book that poverty is a matter of national security. we argue in the book that poverty isn't color coded. when one out of two americans is either in or near poverty, that's a societal crisis, bill. we are getting dangerously close to cementing...