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Differences are. this, they could have seen coming from a mile away, and yet there is no messaging, there is no talking point, there seems to be no strategy as to how mitt romney's going to negotiate this. >> and here's the truth of paul ryan, that the romney campaign, i don't think, quite noticed. and that is, he's never been able to answer television questions about the ryan plan. he's always gone soft and he's always had himself in a position where he's basically playing softball on tv. not under the pressure of being a vice presidential candidate. >> that's right. and even by his own numbe...

That talked about this plan and how cruel it was. to your point about the white catholics in the rust belt, a lot of them are unemployed. a lot are men that have lost their jobs. i think the poverty thing will be a bigger issue than we think. >> briefly, there's a notion in washington that he's a budget hawk. he's not a budget hawk. he's a poverty hawk. he's a charity hawk. he wants to cut certain parts of the budget and he says it will go to deficit reduction but he doesn't want to cut other things. dennis kucinich wasn't called a hawk for wanting to cut defense spending, one of the biggest c...