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Exactly what he's being impeached for. he didn't tell the ukrainians to interfere with an election. they can talk about whether they liked the phone call or not, they can talk about bribery all they want. when you look at the bare bones of the constitutional language in the history, we have never seen anything like this before. >> nothing close. take the abuse of power, article one and then lay that alongside the abuse of power article and the three prong mix of impeachment, a fair-minded person when he or she reads the nixon abuse of power, oh my word they say this guy's got to go. if this is...

Impeachment, i can't even sometimes get my hands around exactly what he's being impeached for. he didn't tell the ukrainians to interfere with an election. they can talk about whether they liked the phone call or not, they can talk about bribery all they want. when you look at the bare bones of the constitutional language in the history, we have never seen anything like this before. >> nothing close. take the abuse of power, article one and then lay that alongside the abuse of power article and the three prong mix of impeachment, a fair-minded person when he or she reads the nixon abuse of pow...

Impeachment, i can't even sometimes get my hands around exactly what he's being impeached for. he didn't tell the ukrainians to interfere with an election. they can talk about whether they liked the phone call or not, they can talk about bribery all they want. when you look at the bare bones of the constitutional language in the history, we have never seen anything like this before. >> nothing close. take the abuse of power, article one and then lay that alongside the abuse of power article and the three prong mix of impeachment, a fair-minded person when he or she reads the nixon abuse of pow...

>> trace: on that segue, let's go to judge star who would like to judge it because i want to put these numbers here, look at the numbers here. impeachment numbers are flat. 48, 48, nobody has change their minds over the past three months according to these polls. your response on that, judge judge starr? >> i'm not surprised because the narrative was essentially baked in months ago at the beginning of the fall. you either take this with the kind of seriousness our democrat brothers and sisters are or you are saying, do i think it's the wise thing to do? is this really an abuse of pow power? as...

It was virtually certain at the beginning of those 85 days that the president would be impeached because the evidence of what became the abuse of power article of impeachment was right there in the phone call, right there in the smoking gun. in all previous political dramas of this sort the investigations began with suspicions, then the investigators slowly collected evidence and testimony, and then toward the end of the investigation they found the smoking gun. in richard nixon's case tapes of his white house conversations. and that was the end of president nixon. in that classic unfolding of...