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Ecr ec reconcile every defendant needs to have counselch. >> and they're paying for counsel for mr. nauta. >> they are paying for counsel, but you have to have someone local and able to be in that courtroom in particular in florida more broadly. and there's a reason for that. you want to have the nuance of jury selection. the rules likely to be unique to that florida court and that judge in particular, you want that. you want that robust counsel. it is no small thing to have your name on the other side of the united states versus. also this notion of not communicating with one another about th...

Nauta. >> they are paying forecasts, what we have to have somebody who's local, who's able to be in that courtroom in particular in florida more broadly. that is a reason, because you won't have the nuance of jury selection, the rules that might be likely to be unique to the florida court, and that judgment, particular you want, that you want robust counsel, it is no small thing to have your name on the other side of the united states versus. also, this notion of not communicating with one another, about the nature of, the case that can be advised, one of the reasons to do so is that you do no...

Spy. that's going to be something that they're going to talk about in the political realm and i think there's going to be a big difference between what's said in the political realm and what's said in the courtroom. >> i think you are definitely right there. karen, you just heard katelyn outlining the restrictions that trump and walt nauta are supposed to abide by, right? they are barred from discussing the case with each other and also from other witnesses. how can the court even enforce this, especially considering trump is telling all of us, right, he's communicating with all of us about th...

Shot while walt nauta does not. can i read you my favorite line from this lawyer, this attestation from the lawyers who are going to represent donald trump. the best line in it is fee disputes between counsel and client shall not be a basis for withdrawal for this presentation, because he probably gave them the three million like he had to do last time for mr. keys and had to pay him up front. walt nauta doesn't have $3 million. it is this we're power dynamic. and i was actually going to ask you, if you don't mind, can walt nauta be a witness in the case against trump? because he is also a def...

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