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I don't like what they did. where's the abuse? >> it's not illegal. i think that the president, acting under his constitutional prerogatives as head of the executive branch, can order the justice department to institute an investigation. the justice department should then exercise its independent judgment to determine whether or not that prosecution is worthy. so in a pure criminal justice sense, i think the president was in his legal rights to do so. to norm's point, from an abuse of power standpoint, from using the offices of the president in a way that is unbecoming of the office, which is ...

I don't like what they did. where is the abuse? >> it is not illegal. i think the president acting under his constitutional prerogatives can order the justice department to institute an investigation. the justice department should then exercise its independent judgment to determine whether or not that prosecution is worthy. so in a pure criminal justice sense, i think the president was in his legal rights to do so. from to norm's point, from an abuse of power standpoint, from using the offices of the president in a way that is unbecoming to the office which is in the words of hamilton in the f...

Heard everybody talking about the top four in the playoffs. everybody said the best team is alabama. in doubt about it. but the team that's going to get in is ohio state. shocked becau the committee did, quote, the right thing. according to a lot of analysts on espn on picking alabama in the fourth spot. of course georgia, oklahoma and clemson the other three spots. what happened? >> well, the committee actually did the right thing. they used common sense and not to get overly political here on this show, but i was concerned and i think a lot of people were as well that this committee would ha...

It tells me we're tightening the screws from a military elements of power standpoint on north korea, tells me that things are very tense in that region. we know this. the elements of power, the economic piece and north korea is being squeezed hard economically. you have the information power, the words going back and forth. you have diplomatic power and three military powers. three strike groups, we're poised to do something. that's expensive. >> martha: and as well, the president heads to the region. he's headed to south korea. one more subject. niger. a report tonight that in the wake of the...

You're going to -- you want to be part of our process, you're going to support whomever that winner is. >> do you have any leverage over a candidate like donald trump leading in the polls and he may not have the best tone of one of the other candidates out there that is part of the grouping that we see right now in front of us? does the rnc have leverage over a candidate like that? >> ultimately, it is up to the voters to decide the nominee in the states. do we have any leverage? no. from the pure power standpoint. but the chairman and senior staff is constantly in communication with each of t...