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What you saw the performance that senator kerry gave and the reception by his colleagues. >> anna, your article, is it possible the nra is using this as a pr move for background checks? >> i think this is something that any lobby group when looking at the battle that is going to have many different legs to it, they are going to say we don't want to give up anything. if we do, the whole cards could tumble with it. you saw wayne lapierre, the head of the nra staying firm on that saying this program hasn't worked. you know, the mental health lobby has lobbied heavily not to have mental health rec...

Pre-cliff, if you're unemployed, you get 99 weeks of benefits, post cliff, 26 weeks. and home interest perks, bye-bye, those could all be gone. bernie sanders, good to have you with me today. and the president is making a full-court press meeting with business leaders today. and i just had senator johnson on earlier in the hour and says he's a small business owner, the president would have been wise to invite him to this meeting to talk to him about what he thinks about what could happen with the fiscal cliff, what do you think about the president's pr moves so far and what he's doing? >> well...

Themselves plenty of wiggle room here, particularly on the hours of franchise employees. is this a pr stunt to save face, or is there substance behind this, ruth? >> i think it's a pr move. but, you know, since 2006, we've seen more and more part-time workers, particularly in these kinds of big chains. so a lot of ceos know that they can save money by not allowing people to work full-time and qualified for benefits. and that is part of the game that's being played in the labor market, where people are willing to take a bunch of different part-time jobs and work with no benefits. my personal fa...

They got caught in the republican lie. they got caught in the campaign rhetoric. and it really tripped them up. it put them a bad place. that's why you see them doing something ceos don't do very often, which is completely abandoning their position, and saying, never mind. >> both papa john's ceo and denny's franchise seem to leave themselves plenty of wiggle room here, particularly on the hours of franchise employees. is this a pr stunt to save face, or is there substance behind this, ruth? >> i think it's a pr move. but, you know, since 2006, we've seen more and more part-time workers, parti...

Often, which is completely abandoning their position, and saying, never mind. >> both papa john's ceo and denny's franchise seem to leave themselves plenty of wiggle room here, particularly on the hours of franchise employees. is this a pr stunt to save face, or is there substance behind this, ruth? >> i think it's a pr move. but, you know, since 2006, we've seen more and more part-time workers, particularly in these kinds of big chains. so a lot of ceos know that they can save money by not allowing people to work full-time and qualified for benefits. and that is part of the game that's being ...