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Will the president take any more questions from special counsel robert mueller and his personal attorney rudy giuliani says both no and maybe. let's bring in hour senior justice correspondent evan perez. two different answers within 24 hours. what's rudy giuliani up to? >> i think part of this is a pr strategy, more so than a legal strategy. rudy giuliani is more on the pr side, public relations side rather than the lawyering which is being done by the real lawyers behind the scenes. look, here, as you pointed out is the different versions of rudy giuliani and he has different answers dependin...

Know could come out. so i am worried about what legal fronts they may face. this doesn't absolve them of needing to prepare on the pr side. they will put their principle in the best possible light. but this legal front is not going away. they're going to have to win it as much as they women the pr battle. >> the irony is they are basically making the decision the facts don't matter, we will fudge it, the poll numbers show they don't want impeachment, we will be okay. the irony is the lion may be what triggers consensus in this country about what they feel is too much, coming from the president...

That's what's going to be problematic for the president should that ever get to that point. >> and i think the public part of this case as well. almost the pr side of things. you look at the way trump and his associates and other folks have been making the argument that all of these people caught up have been treated unfairly. michael flynn is being treated unfairly, paul manafort. he said earlier this week he's being treated unfairly. well, it's harder to make that case when you've got all these details that are pretty salacio salacious. the ostrich coat, jacket or whatever, all the spending ...

Won with foreign leaders one-on-one. it has happened from time to time. what's unissue have it in a situation with a president who is so willing to go off script, so willing to be spontaneous, make deals, may or may not have been born out by the other side. that leaves an entire foreign policy architecture in a bad state because they don't know what's going on. >> katty kay, a question for you, as we're looking at what lens we look through at. seems donald trump is offering his perception through a pr lens not a policy lens. we're trying to depict what actually is happening on the policy side ...

Tweet you just read, we do have a response to that from rudy giuliani. here's what he told dana bash this morning. the truth will set you free. the president did not wrong with michael cohen. everything has been a dead end because there's nothing there. now, this back and forth sort of game of chicken is really interesting because for first time we're seeing michael cohen respond to what rudy giuliani, donald trump's lawyer is saying. that's a big difference and shift in public post tour from before. it started with the abc news interview last weekend when michael cohen spoke out for first tim...