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Discrimination. su surely you're not in support of a policy that discriminates against people of faith. what if this were christians? >> well, again, i don't -- again, this is important, you understand. he's not attacking the faith of islam. this is so important that you understand this. we're not just -- he's not acan tacking the faith of islam. he is simply saying we need to have a tighter grip right now -- this is only a temporary action, too. this is not a permanent action, but a temporary action. you understand there are a thousand active open cases, isis cases right now in the homeland, ...

That are wanting to come into this country we need to have a tighter grip -- we need to halt all immigrants that could be potentially islamic terrorists. let's weed out who are really part of the wonderful, wonderful faith of the islamic faith and isolate the terrorists that are also coming in and being weeded in. remember, i don't think not one muslim, american, who is in america right now wants to die because of a jihadist terrorist that will use them as a human shield or use them to make a point of isis here in america. i don't think not one muslim wants to see that happen. so, again, this ...

That's how they combat it. >> would you -- here is what i think americans would say is that they understand that it is a -- not a majority of muslims or islam that is having this, but it is a substantial minority that is dangerous and that they have a concern about it. would you say that is fair? >> that is fair and we are just as concerned about these act of terrorism and we have to work together to combat this. they can't do it without muslims involved. america has symbols in the middle eastern countries, political bases, military bases, and so many of these are less to do with issues of rel...

We speak. halting the refugee program, which still can be done by defunding it in the ominous bill. also, stopping the visa waiver program temporarily and halting all immigration coming from arab nations right now until we figure out what's going on, don. this is not a complete ban on all muslims coming into the country. this is pertain to go immigration. that's why it's in the subject and that's the context. >> the thing says a total and complete ban of all muslims entering the united states, katrina. >> turned banner of immigration. that's what it says. why are we nod -- why are we not getti...

I have several issues with this. number one, isis wants to create a conflict. and -- >> you would say let's, you know, ban all young white kids from schools, that wouldn't be the same as shutting down schools and universities, but the people who we say as doing this, that profile ers say do ts most often, babbing some 21-year-olds or whatever it is from schools and colleges. >> that's not the way to solve it. and this issue has many components to it. there is a military component, an economic aspect to it, there's an ideology aspect to it. that's what this book that we've worked on because we ...