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And, you know, i can understand, on the one hand, the logic of saying president biden is the president. he is a practicing catholic. we need to clarify these doctrines. fine. it is odd, when you compare the devotion of president biden to his faith, with the behavior of former-president trump. and the lack of a peep of criticism from the conference of catholic bishops with regards to president trump's behavior in office, individually, or his policies. and so, it seems to create a pretty robust double standard, whereby, you end up targeting democratic politicians. and again, if this is really a ...

Happen. thank you. >> let's get some perspective from father james martin and editor at large of american magazine and democratic congressman joe kennedy. let start with you. this is not the first time pro-choice politicians and the catholic church have been at odds over communion. at certain points members of your family have been caught up in this. this is the first time it's been extended to a sitting president in the u.s. what is your reaction to move by the bishop? >> so, couple things, anderson. one, personally, i think it's disappointing, right? this is -- you talk about joe biden as yo...

The church's credibility is on the line and also other issues other politicians, other catholic politicians have not agreed on like the death penalty ordering executions and wasn't talk about this. so unfortunately, many of the bishops and the bishops conference meeting mention president biden and speaker pelosi and makes it very difficult for people to michael vick away-- move away from t assumption some of this is politically motivated. >> do you think politics are at play here?this is politically m >> do you think politics are at play here? >> i think it's hard to particularly when we see t...

>> his head exploded when amy vanderpool a playboy writer tweeted supreme court justice neil gorsuch appeared on fox & friends this morning making a point to parent a -- pair it the merry christmas talking point of the g.o.p. now, how is merry christmas a g.o.p. talking point? >> laura: i will take it. >> i have friends and i didn't know that reagan were sitting around crafting merry christmas. i thought that predated bed all -- all of them but i guess not. >> laura: nancy said whatever holiday you celebrate, i celebrate kwanzaa. and hanukkah and our lord. >> laura: i am a practicing catholic....

>> his head exploded when amy vanderpool a playboy writer tweeted supreme court justice neil gorsuch appeared on fox & friends this morning making a point to parent a merry christmas talking point of the g.o.p. now, how is merry christmas a g.o.p. talking point? >> laura: i will take it. >> i have friends and i didn't know that reagan were sitting around crafting merry christmas. i thought that predated bed all of them but i guess not. >> laura: nancy said whatever holiday you celebrate, i celebrate kwanzaa. >> >> laura: i am a practicing catholic. she got them all. speak with the journalist o...