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May, i believe you testified it was one of the largest delegations . I believe it was. I cant be 100 sure but i believe it was the Largest National delegation. Okay. And included in the delegation was Secretary Perry. Secretary perry, ambassador sondland, myself and senator ron johnson was there and the target defair joe pennington. And we talked a little bit this morning but the president Zelensky Inauguration came together rather quickly. It did. I believe we had about three days notice in which to put the delegation together. And there is discussion about whether the Vice President would be...

Margins of the general assembly and i did the pre-brief and took part in the bilateral meeting. >> and so long before president zelensky was elected, president trump had a negative view of -- >> yes. he had a very strongly negative view. >> back in 2017, do you remember anything he said or did that gave you a feeling that he had these negative views? >> yes. i want to be very careful here because this was a bilateral meeting with the two presidents and i don't want to strain the material but my impression is that he had a strongly negative view of ukraine at the time. >> fair enough. and you d...

>> can you repeat the question. i'm sorry. >> you testified at your deposition that once the aid was lifted, despite all of the things going on in the background, that u.s./ukraine relations were strong. >> yes. >> or as good as you want them to be? >> yes. >> and you referenced that the security sector assistance was lifted and any hold on that and there was a positive meeting in new york -- >> that is correct. >> -- and there was momentum in putting pressure on the russians, is that correct. >> that is correct. >> in your deposition you made clear that the president had a deep rooted negativ...