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Cyber attacks. not just through information, but as we know, these things can be weaponized. >> let me turn the topic to something that -- look, you have been an activist sort of as a hobbyist, i guess. because your main job has been entertainment director, but infused politics and wanted to tell lessons. how would you advise the democratic party to win over the archie bunkers of this world? >> well, i think the main -- you know, everyone talks about the russia, russia. that's not really -- that's national security, their issue and should be of concern to both parties. this is not partisan. i ...

Mnuchin's government plane, the private plane to go on a honeymoon for national security reasons, whatever happened on eclipse day. in the traditional politics, pre crazy, this would have been the type of scandal that probably would have cost they both their jobs. >> yeah, and i think it will hurt. i think in secretary price's example in particular, the conjunction of it with a big vote on health care legislation that affects millions of people who aren't flying around on private jets is a really unhelpful one the. >> you have a last chance to push health care. now you're the white house. and ...

Alaska actually does. >> so instead of trying to jam something through like a "skinny repeal" let's do it in the normal process. >> and if they were hoping for an off ramp pointing to bipartisan negotiations to stabilize the health care market -- colleague lamar alexander dashed them a bit saying those talks didn't work. democrats don't agree. they insist progress was being made. health care, folks, the herd rail in politics for a reason. co-author, bill cassidy, found himself in rare position being excoriated before an audience of millions. jimmy kimmel, over an interview cassidy did on that ...