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Pushing for. so republicans sort of putting the ball in democrats' court saying you want to shut the government down over those 9 million children you've been arguing for over the past six months and democrats are saying they are not budging unless the d.r.e.a.m.ers are including in any bill. i think we're moving closer to a government shutdown than a week ago. >> the discome mofort is spread around. there was or is a bipartisan proposal out there, right? the gang of six has put something out. the number two in the senate, john cornyn, pre-emptively said no dice. and the president said bring m...

Nuclear power capable of hitting the u.s.? >> well, from a diplomatic standpoint, a lot of that hinges on whether senior officials in the united states have already decided that we're just going to have to use the military option. some of the rhetoric that we've heard -- >> pre-emptively, you mean? >> pre-emptively. it's been quite alarming on this front. if they've concluded there's only one way out here and it's using force, then, no, they are not going to get to a diplomatic solution. but if they say we are going to use every diplomatic and economic tool at our disposal and rally to bring n...

But that dossier. >> and then the fbi was going to buy it. >> but i don't know of any instance of that individual who did it handing it over to the clinton people. >> what happened here? did any information get handed over? nothing. here's the thing -- and i understand -- there's this whole russia thing. donald trump jr. today releases an entire email chain. >> pre-emptively because the new york times was about to. >> hillary clinton erases 33,000 emails. >> she shouldn't have done that. >> what's happening on snat. >> i believe the fbi did an investigation about that. >> and decided it was ok...

So sessions says i can't promise you i won't leave you alone with the president and in the passage that you just read, that he went to the acting deputy attorney general and said i want your guidance and didn't get any. >> you make a very good point here because one of the republican talking points since this story has come out is if this is so terrible, why didn't you go to sessions? why didn't -- >> he did. >> and he did. several times. >> the other point i want to quickly point out is the emphasis that he did not tell the agents working on the case because he's acting pre-emptively there in...

Political columnist of "the washington post." this whole business of trying to find a way out of the michael flynn mess, you had something provocative to say in the piece you did in "the post" today, that you said maybe he can pardon him. >> i think he can, if michael flynn finds himself sitting in front of a jury or a judge passing down the sentence i would not be surprised if donald trump came in to pardon his sentence, or commute it. we've seen it happen in the past. george bush pardoned the aide to dick cheney, and certainly it could happen. i don't know that he will do it pre-empti pre-em...