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Security, that seems to be when you are in most need because then you have thrill seekers, surfers, boaters that want to get out there that might be bored. they think it's safe to leave their homes and get back out there. if they do, how dangerous is this ocean right now? how dangerous is it going to get? >> so i think it's important to note that earlier today as we were monitoring some of the wave heights, really not that far off shore there was 35 to 40 foot waves still being pushed by this system that have nowhere to go but towards the shore and you're going to see significant amounts impac...

Contact with the storm. fema was here ahead of time. we had all of government here ahead of time. the storm over-matched the capacity here and it broke the infrastructure. >> you know, fema said look, we can't pre-position supplies in front of a big storm on an island like that. is that the case? >> i think the budget guys next year need to say they have to pre-position, because if you're going to leave the people here, you need to structure. this is not a criticism, it's a suggestion. we have to reopen roosevelt road. we have the equivalent of a state here that depends wholly on the national ...

Veterans of hurricanes. we saw a lot of that working, as devastating as these storms have been, the fact that 1800 people died during katrina and the death toll, thank heavens, is so much lower this time amidst this immense damage, speaks to some of the lessons. do you evacuate houston? no. do you evacuate in florida? yes. 100 poem died evacuating houston before rita. officials know more about how to pre position, the role of the military, 21,000 military personnel helping. 64,000 federal officials on the ground in place. and then -- so that was sort of the top-down part. what we're also seein...

For some time. while there are some political appointees always in positions like fema, there is a staff that is well-rehearsed in this and well studied in this. that's one. reasons, for instance, they knew to start pre positioning supplies. fema used to wait until after the fact and see what we can do. now fema has an operation that pre-positions supplies. they work with large companies like walmart, like budweiser to get cans. that normally would have beer in them with water. rush into communities, pre-position. when it's finally over, people can see that, okay, there are supplies in place. ...