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And we've all got constituents who are running out of options and we've got to find some bipartisan solutions to stabilize that. that what this does. i'm proud to be a part of it. >> mitch mcconnell in waving towards this, right, one of the things right now is getting money to essentially back stop ring short in certain ways the way insurance companies induce them more into the markets where they are fleeing or aren't enough of them. mcconnell dhauld bailout. rand paul called it a bailout. in fact there was money in both, aren't you just eye he is not shlly bailing out insurance companies like...

Includes funding cost sharing subsidies to help americans as well as smaller employers. two lawmakers join me now. >> congressman, let us start with you. do you think it is appropriate for the president to be essentially threatening to take away that money and spike premiums as a way to gain political leverage over the law? >> chris, thanks for having us on. let me be clear. this is a hot button issue. what josh and i and our colleagues have been able to did is over the last several weeks come together to laser focus on one issue, which is stabilizing the market. which is starting to fail. in ...

Bills being passed doesn't have anything to do with that? med cared and so on doesn't have anything to do with that. i want to ask you a question whether you think is appropriate for the president and not just thre threaten, but a thing he might do which is hold back the money. talk about costs are too high a for people. that would make things worse. he shouldn't do that, should he? >> 43 members of congress nearly equally on both sides wp o, oneo share cost funding. structurally it is -- it needs chaems so the stability fund is a absolutely critical. to address those with the highest expenses...

If we can get dollars it states to help them help low-income folks, people with high risk diseases and those that need support, if we can do that, kaiser and others state that pre premiums would come down 15 to 20%. i don't look that as anything but helping people and stabilizing things. that's the urgent problem that mar that w martha was talking about. and dealing with pools with people with preexisting conditions is the answer. we can't keep having the same fight of trying to kill it versus fix it which is to me what we need do here. >> congresswoman is there any interest? we know how the h...

Pre premiums in minnesota have gone on 55%. the state had to bail out the exchange created by obamacare. we have a crisis where premiums have doubled since 2013. the idea of doing nothing is just untenable. so i do think there's criticism warranted towards the other chamber if they don't get some form of reform done. >> lisa murkowski says she's not for doing nothing. she wants it to go through the regular committee process when it's dealing with one-sixth of the economy. she wants it to go through the committee process. that's her point. do you think that this kind of public shaming of one of...