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Every time volodymyr zelenskyy is out in public, that's a big issue. but you have weighed that it is a valuable thing to have him out there visible to the ukrainian people in the world on a daily basis. >> yeah. they do appreciate the daily presence of our president. who was quite brave to visit the most sensible places of our fight. and of course, it transcends greatly the morale of our troops, and that of the population as well. as we don't need only to fight our enemy, we have to reach on, liberate cities, and resume normal life. just this morning, i've been visiting the one with the most e...

It's reality. they are not the only country seeking to do that.be can i get an amen to that? >> well, preach on. look at china. in the '90s, giving a whole bunch of money to my party and to others, you go back into time. the british, in the run-up to world war ii, have an office in new york trying to influence us and get us involved in a war. that doesn't minimize -- pearl harbor was an influence on that, but the point is this. we have complicated relationships with people all around the world. and we always will. that doesn't mean we don't hold people to account and we don't push backd and in...