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Public diplomacy and affairs. he is a distinguished fellow with the digital forensic research lab. gentlemen, welcome to you both. steve, tom price lost his job over shall we call it, a transportation issue. are these people any different? >> you look at -- super officially this is the same thing. in both cases you look at that issue of perks of very expensive travel in the case of the veterans affairs secretary, bringing along his wife. if you believe there was a precedent set with tom price, you have to wonder is there a similar example made of shulkin, made of pruitt? there's not an indicat...

Said and maybe bold it and underline it and add a few exclamation points here. because this is really uncharted territory. the rule the house is using to put this memo public, if that's the decision the white house ultimately agrees to, has never been evoked before. it's been clear in my conversations with a number of sources on the hill that there are really trying to understand what the process is. understand all those scenarios. the lawyers are working overtime to make sure they do this by the book because of the precedent set. the first scenario is the easiest one. that's where president t...

Just to touch on this jimmy kimmel aspect, i wholeheartedly agree with him. i agreed with him then and i agree with him now. as we look at what the republican party is doing by playing politics with health care, it's things like jimmy kimmel and medicare for all which tie and fall right in place with what the republican party is trying to do here. what they're saying is we're trying to most country so socialism. he is part of the liberal elite hollywood. instead of doing what selena said which is sit down and come together with policies, they're playing politics with people's lives. that's ver...

>> eboni: lisa, i started with that, right? that doesn't take away a strong constitutional argument that is the basis for his suit. >> lisa: we're also talking about grant money and the federal government has a right. >> kat: congress does. that's how traditionally congress is supposed to be. if there is going to be conditions placed on grant money congress does that. not the executive branch. if we have a precedent set. conservatives might might not like that if there is a democrat in congress to put conditions on oh, if you allow conceal carry in your states, then we are not going to allow t...

Health care battle in congress. while some of those issues are not going as well for president trump as he would like, the question of russian meddling is one that is i think a little bit on the back burner for him, even if it's not in washington. you know, basically with the investigations that are going on into him. >> jonathan, you brought up a good point. there were four people in that meeting. another issue raising eyebrows is that h.r. mcmaster was being shut out of the meeting which goes against precedent set in previous administrations when the national security advisor would have no d...