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Decide whether the judge in utah was correct or incorrect. after that, the losing side can go to the supreme court. just in terms of the actual facts, in terms of what really matters today, if you are a same-sex couple, you cannot get married in utah. you could get married last week. you can't get married this week. you can't get married, i think, it is safe to say, for the foreseeable future, weeks, months, until the tenth circuit decides this case. >> ultimately, i find that this one is so precedent setting where california wasn't. >> that case had a lot of peculiarities to california. this ...

And put them in a very difficult position. that's why so many conservative groups, conservative politicians, religious groups today are saying that a&e totally reversed itself. a&e backed down. that's not a wrong way to perceive this. but a&e had to find a way to keep the show going. as you pointed out, it already taped a bunch of shows with phil robertson it which they'll start airing the next several weeks. now with this announcement, we know that he will be a part of the snow going forward. >> you also got to wonder when this is precedent setting. you know, if somebody says something that's...

Because they saw this as precedent-setting. it was the first time an official wasn't prosecuted for not abusing kids -- or abusing kids but instead for covering it up. monsignor william lynn's child endangerment conviction overturned. his attorneys are calling for his immediate release. he spent the last 18 months behind bars for the way he handled sexual abuse complaints. as a high-ranking official he was assigned to investigate reports of abuse. during his june 2012 trials prosecutors argued he covered up abuse inside the catholic church and allowed a known predator to stay in the ministry. ...

And in fact, you have drafted real legislation, you have history in your experience and background of drafting legislation. and you've done this. you've drafted legislation that you think could be precedent setting in terms of how parents need to be responsible not only if they're bullying but also if they're children are going to be bullied. can you give me a synopsis? >> through a nonprofit we have we've done basically a bill that first identifies and defines what bullying is and cyberbullying. we are trying to make it illegal. we will address an issue called revenge porn which is out in cal...

Meetings with the vice president over the weekend where he was making the case directly to you. in his case -- what did he say about how this use of chemical weapons changes our posture on this especially in terms of the possibility of those weapons spreading outside of syria and, and was that not in some way compelling to you? >> well, first of all. there is a history. there is a history of use of chemical weapons in the world over nearly a century. and there has been a sad history of inaction in the face of that. so what we decide to do, at this moment in some ways becomes precedent setting ...