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people who do know it is a lie but they choose to repeat the lie and choose to live in that alternative reality? >> well your exactly right. there is a tendency to think this is somehow based on education or experience or anything else. and it is not whether you went to college or where you went to college that is the most likely predictor, it is whether you consumer right-wing media. you're more likely to bring conspiracy theories about vaccines and elections. that is the problem in this country. is that we have a very well funded, very aggressive operation that is spreading these l...

Say about this controversy after the sort of the statement after statement that changed the story a little bit on donald trump jr. s meeting with this russian lawyer. He basically said my son is a high quality individual, hes been transparent and open. Hes come out and given the whole story. But there are a lot of questions that still remain and in the white house i think theyre very well aware these are not questions that are going to go away and theyre not questions that theyre prepared to take. Theres a lot of legal jeopardy around this meeting. Theres a question of whether the president hi...

The work that i did particularly was looking for deceased voters, duplicate voters, and we were taking as much of a national look at that as we could. the claims that came to me that others brought were also more or less statewide claims as opposed to anything that was dealing with, especially down at the precinct level, no. there was nothing like that. >> and so you didn't find claims of millions in millions of dead people voting? millions of people voted using other peoples names, that kind of thing? >> yeah, we didn't find any, there was no data that i was able to uncover that showed enough...

Disband at the national level in favor of local chapters. but it doesn't mean there isn't a national strategy. there's just not a single puppet master running at. what we've got, is a decentralized, localized, very grassroots effort. i think your clip of michael flynn explained it well. i use a different example with the mayors, they're focusing on county over country. capture your county, then a few, then maybe your state, but michael flynn said essentially the same thing last week, earlier this week in pennsylvania about getting at that precinct level, and my new, the same disinformation abo...

Capture your county, then a few, then maybe your state, but michael flynn said essentially the same thing last week, earlier this week in pennsylvania. about getting at that precinct level, and my new, the same disinformation about the 2020 election, that fueled the violence on january six, 2021. that's the same disinformation today, nearly two years after the 2020 election, that's fueling all of these efforts to intimidate voters, threaten and intimidate election officials, and to try and thwart people from exercising their fundamental, constitutional right to vote. and that's why it really i...