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Then apparently the ukrainians had the ability to counterattack. i just wonder, based on the soda straw view that you and i are getting of that battlefield, what is your assessment of where russian efforts stand in the east right now? >> they -- the russians continue to be disorganized from a component of combined arms operations. indirect fire, direct fires, and aviation assets. so it is a largely artillery based army, mass fires, less frequent use of precision weapons, and when we talk about mobility, countermobility, when you're relied upon a single pontoon bridge, in the vicinity, that is ...

Russia is pinpointing all of those facilities with precision weapons, which is interesting because they're using nonprecision weapons, so-called artillery and dumb bombs at cities targeting civilians. there's an effort by russia to interfere with the reinforcement and the supplying of ukraine's force coming in from nato country skand the west. >> you think that's more effective, the russian foreign minister said the nato weapons coming in will still be targets of russian forces. do you think it's more effective to hit the railways, the road crossings than the actual shipments of these weapons,...

About this saying we're just using precision weapons not targeting residential areas or shooting or hitting civilians. >> yeah, it's pretty surprising, yet when you look back at the russian playbook it makes a lot of sense. when you particularly think of this new general or relatively recently appointed general, known as the butcher of syria and the tactics we saw in syria, the targets of hospitals and schools and the powerful message that sends to people that you cannot have any sense of normalcy until you submit, while at the same time, officially continuing to spat out the line that these p...

Russian forces will be able to indiscriminately launch unguided artillery bombardment attacks, but they will not be able to pinpoint high value Ukrainian targets

Critically important to that. so you're seeing a back and forth on both sides. russia using precision weapons on some military targets while using arbitrary weapons against civilian targets where they can kill as many as they possibly can. so it will be a tough fight. i continue to believe that ukraine will put up the effort to conduct hasty attacks and a hasty defense against the incoming russian troops. >> and we have these brand-new satellite images showing a russian military convoy. it's about eight miles long. we've seen what has happened to previous russian convoys. they didn't do so wel...