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Of those buildings. and there is a secondary building that i think is a little bit further out. it is difficult to say without sort of standing there on the ground what civilian exposure there is to those buildings. but this is a densely populated city center, so the minute you start bombing city centers, there is a huge risk of civilians being killed. the russians did say in this statement from the defense ministry given to task that they are going to be using precision weapons, though, you know, it is arguable what that actually means or what kind of a guarantee that is, if any at all. and t...

Don't think the goal was to destroy this plant. but this is classic russian military playbook. the classic russian military playbook of being completely reckless around very dangerous things like nuclear plants. >> and we just got word moments ago that the fire has now been completely extinguished. that is an enormous relief. peter, whether or not the fire is extinguished now, what does this attack tell you about the kremlin's strategy for war now? where they're going? >> well one thing it reminds us is that the kremlin does not play by the same rulebook that others through. that when the unit...

The russian aircraft have not been able to fly significantly. they are dropping some bombs. they are dropping some caliber missiles, cruise missiles from high altitude aircraft, as peter said. but it's not a lot. they are running out of those precision weapons quickly and they're using most of those to go after military targets. what you're seeing in terms of the catastrophe in ukrainian cities are primarily being caused by missiles and artillery shells and it's hard to stop those. you can't close the sky to them. what you have to do is counter battery artillery fire. that requires radar to fi...

To launch precision weapons when they want to hit a target precisely which to me reinforces the criminality of the russian force if -- in using area weapo in the civilian population. there are none in mariupol, kharkiv, any of the places where they have continuously struck arbitrarily civilian targets without precision weapons. so this just makes a case in my view that they are committing war crimes. >> and it makes you worry about the escalation in this, especially toward civilians. this viewer gets to that point in this question to us saying we've heard a lot about -- lot of talk about russi...

Strong. that is the lesson. >> sean: do you see any strength out of joe biden? he won't even give them a migs. he's the one that vetoed that. >> no, he's the problem. he's done some things right. he has started to supply ukraine, he has helped ukraine in many ways, but not enough, not all, and his weakness in afghanistan was part of the problem that sent the signal to putin that he might be able to get away with this. the decision on the migs is a terrible decision, he should be helping ukraine with these things. but very clearly i want to make one point, your talk about precision weapons. the...