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>> so, fred, is this the first time that you have heard of an american being targeted? >> no, campbell. if you look, we've had azzam the american, which is adam gadahn, which has been a high-valued target for quite some time. and i think that if you look at this from a strategic perspective, this is to be expected, and if you think about it from the concept of these predator drone strikes hit, they're going to take out whoever's in that building or hut or cave. so i think you're looking at just a counterterrorism. strategy here where this individual has placed himself in a position where he's ...

Qaeda leaders and if it's an american, so be it. >> so, fred, this the first time that you have hear of an american being targeted? >> no, campbell. if you look we've had azzam the american which is adam goadan which has been a high-valued target for quite some time. and i think that if you look at this from a strategic perspective, this is to be expected and if you think about it from the concept of these predator drone strikes hit, they're going to take out whoever's in that building or hut or cave. so i think you're looking at just a counterterrorism. strategy here where this individual has...

Target for quite some time. if you look at this from a strategic perspective, this is to be expected. if you think about it from the concept of these predator drone strikes hit, they're going to take out whoever is in that building or hut or cave. i think you're looking at just a counterterrorism strategy where this individual has placed himself where he's going to be at the receiving end of a missile strike. >> that may be the case. that doesn't change the fact that a lot of jaws dropped today hearing this news that it's not capture this guy but kill this guy, an american. i know, as jeff poi...

Period. after 9/11 that became obsolete. we have been targeting osama bin laden and everyone associated with him for quite some time. it is not surprising and it is not illegal that an american is now on that list because the argument is our military requirements are that we kill al qaeda leaders. and if it's an american, so be it. >> so is this the first time that you have heard of an american being targeted? >> no, campbell. if you look, we've had osam the american has been a high-value target for quite some time. and i think that if you look at this from a strategic perspective this is to b...

Captured. let's talk about this with our national security contributor, fran townsend. she was homeland security adviser to president bush. worked in the justice department during the clinton administration. all right, this is a potentially unchartered territory, a united states citizen, living abroad, about to be targeted for potential assassination by the united states government. is that right? >> that's right, wolf, and it's not exactly unchartered territory. few people remember in november of 2002, immediately after 9/11, there was an al qaeda leader who had been implicated in the "uss co...