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You know, if that didn't happen. you have to think a lot of the same facts would have come to light whether or not the memos ultimately were published in the press. but i think the chances of comey being successfully prosecuted are close to zero. >> laura coates? >> i agree with that assessments. and also the white house has to actually shift its perspective about what is actually the predicate act that led to everything else. it's not necessarily giving over of information by comey. it was actually the firing of comey that led to a lot of different scenarios. the chicken and the egg game that...

It's totally fascinating to me how often headlines are written as israel attacks gaza sites and women and children are killed. the predicate act, the rockets that are coming from gaza into israel, perhaps because they're mostly being shot down, but perhaps because there is maybe some level of bias, that doesn't get covered in the same way. but i don't -- i'm very, very careful to ascribe -- not to ascribe bias in this. i think there's a news worthiness that people latch on to. >> so you're saying israel has more firepower and unfortunately some civilians are dying despite the footings and warn...

Before officer collier was murdered. >> at mit. >> yes. if these three men had not engaged in that obstruction of justice coverup, if they had notified the police the way any decent young men would do, there is a chance and a pretty good chance that officer collier would be alive today. if i were the u.s. attorney -- if i were u.s. attorney i'd be charging them with a conspiracy that embraced murder as a predicate act. because one of them actually said something very dramatic. one of them said, i didn't expect to ever see him again alive. so that conspiracy embraced the possibility of a violen...

To this faster three, four, and five years ago? and with regard to the investigation, the point that i'd like to make is that these men who were arrested, who were involved in the coverup and were involved in obstructing justice, i'd like to point out something that hasn't been focused on enough. they were aware of the fact according to the complaint now, fbi's sworn complaint, they were aware of the fact those two brothers were involved in the bombing three to four hours before officer collier was murdered. >> at m.i.t.? >> yes. if these three men had not engaged in that obstruction of justic...

I've questioned people, you walk in and you start talking about a conspiracy with murder, as part of the predicate act. martha: you could have saved that police officer's life if you had spoken sooner. >> when you're talking about fall stalls statements, obstruction of justice, five years, 8 years, you stick murder in there all of a sudden people become much more willing to cooperate and maybe they start remembering the truth. martha: we'll talk to you again i hope soon mayor guiliani, good to see you as always. bill: got to squeeze them, right, mayor? no question abou >> no question about it ...