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>> russians had conspired to try to allthrow our elections away hillary and to the other guy, trump. and if you assist in that conspiracy by going to a meeting, trying to set down some sort of ground rules for exchanging getting dirt, promises to lift sanctions, that looks to me like assisting the conspiracy. >> yeah. and here's the thing, chris. all you have to do is try. so we already know don jr., kushner and manafort were trying really hard to get dirt. so i think mueller had his predicate case. what is important about this is mueller's super-big decision. he thinks, okay, i have a lot of ...

>> that's right. >> the russians had conspired to throw our elections away from hillary and to the other guy, in this case trump. if you assist in that conspiracy by going to a meeting, trying to set down some sort of ground rules for exchanging getting dirt, promising to lift sanctions, that looks to me like assisting the conspiracy. >> yeah. and here's the thing, chris. all you have to do is try. so we already know don junior, kushner, and manafort were trying really hard to get dirt. so, again, i think that mueller had his predicate case. what's important about this is mueller's super big d...