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If you think about the entire obstruction of justice investigation, what is the predicate offense for the obstruction of justice investigation? that is, what's the investigation, the justice that was being obstructed? and the answer to that, at least in part, is the investigation of mike flynn. >> right. >> and so, you know, that's another big piece of the puzzle, particularly if you believe as i do that one of the other components of the mueller investigation that we really haven't heard anything from, but has been very active, is this obstruction component. >> say more on that. >> well, i me...

Flynn. he's interested in flynn because of other things he may know and that that's actually the body of his cooperation, this lie was merely the low hanging fruit leverage that he had that could -- that they could plead and that could, by the way, didn't necessarily involve anything classified. and so you could -- you could do it all in public. >> good point. >> in a way that maybe some other stuff was not doable in public. >> then there's also the fact, which of course we all know but i was just going back through it to remind myself of this set of facts about this, about comey and the expli...

Period. the reason why we cannot rely on the fbi report, you wouldn't like it if we did. because it is inconclusive? >> laura: "period, period." don't we just love biden. the gift that keeps on giving. please run in 2020. here to react, former assistant director of the fbi new york. bill, we have all been having fun with those tapes today. it was back on tape back then. but it is a talking point of the activists, they get their sheets of talking points, bullet point, bullet point, "all we want is an fbi investigation." bill, what is the truth about what the fbi could do here? >> laura, it's so...

Don't we just love biden. the gift that keeps on giving. please run in 2020.. here to react, bill gavinth former assistant director of the fbi new york. bill, we have all been having fun with those tapes today. it was back on tape back then. but it is a talking point of the activists, they get their sheets of talking points, bullet point bullet point, "all we want is an fbi investigation." bill, what is the truth about what the fbi could do here? >> laura, it's so crazy. i just don't understand everybody wants an fbi investigation. d an investigation of what?ev a criminal investigation? you wa...

For an investigation. an investigation of what? there is no predicate offense. an investigation if there was a rape or a sexual assault should have been done by local authorities and everybody knows that the statute of limitations has run on that now. that's number one. number two, background investigations. it's over. it's done. could the white house say open it up again? they could, but it's not going to happen. in this particular case, what could come from opening the background investigation again? we go out and interview who? number one, the alleged victim has been offered by senator fein...