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28,500 american soldiers. so forget north korea is a nuclear power that can strike japan and south korea right now with a nuclear weapon. they have this powerful conventional military forces that can wipe out seoul, do catastrophic damage. >> general mccaffrey, a, wait to people figure out that by the way the winter olympics are due to start in five months in south korea. and perhaps a second question entirely, when you hear that kind of talk about a limited target list, some kind of preemptive strike by the u.s., we'll blow up the missile on the pad when it appears, what do you say to yoursel...

They have this powerful conventional military forces that can wipe out seoul, do catastrophic damage. >> general mccaffrey, a, wait to people figure out that by the way the winter olympics are due to start in five months in south korea. and perhaps a second question entirely, when you hear that kind of talk about a limited target list, some kind of preemptive strike by the u.s., we'll blow up the missile on the pad when it appears, what do you say to yourself? >> i'm sure the secretary of defense put that on the table, a b-1 bomber standoff missile attack in international waters. i am positive...

So forget north korea is a nuclear power that can strike japan and south korea right now with a nuclear weapon. they have this powerful conventional military forces that can wipe out seoul, do catastrophic damage. >> general mccaffrey, a, wait to people figure out that by the way the winter olympics are due to start in five months in south korea. and perhaps a second question entirely, when you hear that kind of talk about a limited target list, some kind of preemptive strike by the u.s., we'll blow up the missile on the pad when it appears, what do you say to yourself? >> i'm sure the secreta...

Consequences, because the president has taken one line here, and members of his cabinet have taken a different one, there has been the sense of mixed messaging. and some have asked whether that has emboldened kim jong un. john? >> i don't know. the cabinet members are always more subdued than president and n their rhetoric. i actually think the president's strong language is going to be a boon for him in this negotiation process because north korea might think donald trump just crazy enough to pull the trigger and do a preemptive strike on him, versus barack obama. i don't think anybody would ...

Most recently escalated yesterday. he accused the south of appeasement. he also told a reporter we'll see when asked whether the us is planning a preemptive strike. we're following all of these developments this hour. from the pentagon to the un to tokyo. let's go to tokyo as we wait for this meeting to get underway. that's where we find will ripley. what is your take given the access that you had to the regime. you have been there 14 times and just got back this weekend. what do you make of the latest rhetoric and also this test? >> well, the rhetoric is concerning. it's not necessarily what ...