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Korea. before we get to how the withdrawal was handled, was the withdrawal itself an acknowledgment of that, the remaking countries simply didn t work? yeah, well, i mean, i think i disagree with the premise h honestly. listen, this is about an enduring peace. we weren t at war with afghanistan. the government of afghanistan was our ally. what we were doing was fighting extremism of all sorts. i mean, it s kind of a petri dish of extremism. i argue the reason we kept troops in germany was not because we were at war with germany, but we were a counter weight to russia. same in korea with the north koreans. same in japan, and now look, we re counter weighting to china and other places. these are investments and insurance policies so we can control the outcome of our own national security. so this notion that i m ending a war that was happening for 20 years, boy, jim, i just can t agree with it because when we ....