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Doing extraordinarily well here. you don't improve education by disinvesting in it. martha: but we've invested and invested and invested and that's the lesson perhaps people are saying, more money has been felony at it. and when you look at state spending, the results have been declining. so that's not helping. >> but that's not true in madison. here again, i have to disagree with you martha. here again, those investments are paying off in madison. we are seeing test scores improving, lead the nation in national merit scholars, the gap between the low income students and higher income students...

And the pushback hasn't grown against what we're doing. it has receded. people are agreeing with our position in opposition to the president's. bill: that says to me -- you think the signature piece of legislation, in all likelihood, whether he's a one-term president or 2-term president, you say he's backing down already. that's a -- >> absolutely. that's how i see it. i don't think there's any other reasonable way to interpret it. bill: ken cuccinelli, attorney general out of virginia, thank you for coming on today. it got our attention. we'll see where it goes next. thank you. martha. martha...

Brand new hour of "america's newsroom," i'm martha maccallum. bill: good morning, martha, i'm bill hemmer. and what did colburn tell us, i can cut $350 billion now, 52 different federal programs, all funding so-called entrepreneurial efforts. 35 different agencies for infrastructure. 26 different programs following money to telecommunications. government at work. martha: mind boggling, folks. when you see this, carl cameron joining us live now, capitol hill, a lot of this is the kind of thing that really, ticks people off, carl, when you hear about 26 agencies, all designed to help spur entrep...

But i can tell you that ice agents in conjunction with local police all across the country, they went out each night, running hard and expecting the worst. >> hands on the car, hands on the car. come here, come here, come here. hands on the car. put them on the car. guys, come to the railing. come to the railing. put your hands over the railing. >> reporter: as you can see, very tense situation there, every night, these agents and local law enforcement went out, they confiscated a lot of drugs, prepackaged bagies of marijuana, as well as crack cocaine and regular cocaine, and they also confisc...

There are 18 food assistance programs, that cost $63 billion. $62.5 billion, 11 of them haven't been studied and that was in 2008. there are 47 job training and employment programs that cost $18 billion back in '09. and 42 of them have not been studied and a lot are duplicates and 82 programs to improve teacher quality, across 5 separate agencies, not just the department of education but even things like nasa has the programs, $4 billion in '09 and some have almost duplicate descriptions. and the report goes on to talk about the department of defense and says that were the military to tighten ...