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To imagine in a country where, like, weight loss shows are very popular, that people will identify with him and perhaps if they don't apir to look like him, he is -- >> who among us have not -- >> i think that's a great point, and i also lot of the way he addresses it. i love the way he is, like, yeah, i have a weight problem. i don't know why. i love that attitude, and i think that's the right way to playoff tv. >> i think there's a class bias to this conversation because, let's be honest, it's really a lot of working class and poor people are heavier now. it's because of diet. it's because o...