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Partner sas lieutenant marty steel and he was the kwif lend of the clo for the marines and we're working on a transition program and i fell in love with him. a lot of what he does is he talks to soldiers and he listens to them and drills down what's going on, son? what's going on, soldier? what they'll do finally is say, i see things. i did bad things and when i close my eyes i see them more clearly, so, sir, i don't close my eyes very much. what general steel does is forgives them and it's quite remarkable. >> do you think the professional community, your professional community can do more to...

You've been there, doctor. >> it's horrible. i feel honored because one of my partners is a lieutenant general marty steel and he was the equivalent of the clo for the marines. together we're working on a transition program. i fell in love with general steel when i first met him because a lot of what he does is he talks to soldiers and listens to them. and he drills down what's going on, son. what's going on, soldier? and what they'll do once he listens that deeply is they'll say, i see things. i did bad things. and when i close my eyes, i see them more clearly so, sir, i don't close my eyes v...

>> then, what general steele does, he forgives them. he's quite remarkable. >> i would imagine you think on both sides, member don't want to come forward. you don't think they have been very well served that they get back. how do we fix this? how do we get people to come forward and get the military to do better? i think what you need is you need some early adopters. people who are known to be real men and real heroes to talk about how they have ptsd and how they got treatment and how it helped them. i think you need those people because without them, what's going to happen is there are still ...