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>> you've got it. and it is not unusual to get two different readings of a meeting, lavrov and his customary charlieing way, that was quite at odds with what secretary of state tillerson said. that's why there are note takers. they sit on the side of the room and they take notes. apparently president trump didn't want anyone else in the room. i guess he looks at every note taker and thinks of that person as being a leaker. but there are reasons you have note takers. >> there was a moment i want to play jumped out at me. take a listen. >> thank you. >> that's putin leaning over and saying to p...

>> there was a moment i want to play jumped out at me. take a listen. >> thank you. >> that's putin leaning over and saying to president trump, these are the ones that insulted you. pointing to the press core. given that numerous journal the i haves in russia have been murdered in cold blood, and often thought to be partly at the hands of putin or his surrogates, what did you make of that moment? >> to be frank, these two leaders have raised tastelessness to an art form. it is kinds of appalling that putin would do that. i think our president needs to be reminded now and again that there is a ...

Narrative. >> neil: that's the problem with the president and his tweets to the msnbc anchors. he got the conversation off that agenda and to something that is silly but is all-encompassing. that is the danger of getting off message. press secretary under george w. bush ari fleischer with us here. what do you make of that? >> you wake up and you shake your head and you watch your briefing and shake your head. that's what i did today. when i saw the president's tweet, i thought why is he doing this? it's rude, offensive. it's not what presidents do. he's going too far again. when you watch the ...

On camera to be useful to the public and to be useful for our press core, why? because you'll get the same information. by the way, i find the richest points of the entire press briefings that sean or sarah do is when they're reading what the president is doing and the vice president that particular day. it gets such positivity rather than the q&a. >> it's not about the ability to do our jobs at journalists, it's about you knowing they're doing their jobs. "chicago sun times" washington bureau chief lynn sweet. lynn, how do these restrictions a affect your reporting? >> this is a little contra...

Guarantee that a white house press secretary must brief live. as we have seen with holocaust centers with spicer's first briefing that first day and any other problems he's had, the results have not been good. and i think they could legitimately say that they are making themselves available, answering every question every reporter has and not doing it on live tv, which feeds the networks, but it doesn't stop the washington post reporters from breaking the bombshell they did yesterday. magazine reporters can still do their work. >> do you think this is to relieve pressure for them in some way, ...